In this episode I talk to Jacob Gotwals, a longtime meditator and a psychotherapist who has created the site and online community called Spiritual Awakening for Geeks. We try to tackle defining spirituality and what it might mean to us, and get into some fun tangents about life as a giant puzzle room, frames of reference, insight, awakening experiences, and the challenges of language to talk about all of this.

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